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 **Local News**
     * Lego Company [sends an email](/threads/2019-08-29-the-lego-group-unauthorized-use-of-the-lego-group-intellectual-property-kiwifarms-net-case-652509.60303/).  
 (Update: They've officiated a [DMCA takedown notice](/threads/2019-08-29-the-
 lego-group-unauthorized-use-of-the-lego-group-intellectual-property-kiwifarms-
 net-case-652509.60303/post-5250463) to 1776hosting.)  
 (Update #2: They've sent me [another, identical complaint](/threads/2019-08-29
 -the-lego-group-unauthorized-use-of-the-lego-group-intellectual-property-
 kiwifarms-net-case-652509.60303/post-5276312).)
 
     * We're back on DDG, Bing, Yahoo, Qwant et al after they've [re-indexed Kiwi Farms](/threads/duckduckgo-has-blocked-kiwi-farms.60111/), recognizing our territorial soverignty and international charters.
     * Finally, a [good fuckin' mailbag](/threads/2019-09-02-jayden-desino-harassment-in-my-youtube-comments-and-thread-issue.60455/). (Update: They've sent me [their own IC3 report](/attachments/b7dafe47-fd44-482d-9c41-749bb079ff74-page-001-jpg.919920/) where they told the FBI I called them a retard.)
   
   
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     * Alec Holowka [has killed himself](/threads/zoe-quinn-chelsea-van-valkenburg-locke-valentine-unburntwitch-primeape-crashoverride.14263/post-5257942) after being accused of sex abuse by Zoe Quinn.
     * Lowtax [gives a shoutout](/threads/richard-lowtax-kyanka.1222/post-5268022).
     * Local swamp monster [Brianna Wu was with Cenk "The Armenian Genocide Didn't Happen" Uygur on TYT](/threads/2019-aug-27-brianna-wus-appearance-on-the-young-turks.60490/).
   
   
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     * Everyone working on DBZ just had [Funimation audio leaks](/threads/funimation-audio-leaks.60342/).
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 "KiA became infested with racism and sexism... and other ism's (though many
 ism's are not real). GG forums were created on KiwiFarms and 8chan as a
 result," David-me posted. "This was the best and worst thing. The monster was
 now a virus. We banned links to, and then mention of certain links and topics.
 Now we became the enemy."
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